Truly EXCELLENT multi-use pliers - my new favorites!!
I've been using cheaper tools for a while, despite making chain for some time. These are great for everything from 16g Al to 20g Ti and SS. Very skookum and great in the hand. Not quite as stubby as the 475, but the wide tip has a thinner tip and allows a different kind of access, much like the chisel tips, but also does not easily mar the sides of AA. Watch out for Ti >18g... I'd recommend not or you may roll over the edges.